and i thought the best line which i was hoping you may play was when senator durbin from illinois said you mislead it, quote, unquote for a couple of weeks, she said where were those weapons of mass destruction when we invaded iraq? talk about getting it wrong. >> jennifer: yes. i think people who aren't following this so closely do want to know, should hillary clinton have done something differently before or after the attack? >> no, i -- i don't think so because again what you say -- well theoretically you are the secretary of defense or you are responsible for everything. 20, 30 people, everybody want more security, and people have to make, you know, those -- you know, those decisions. so basically i think when she -- when -- when it happened, and she found out about it then she acted appropriately, but you don't fire the secretary of defense gates because some air force guy took off with a nuclear weapon without telling anybody. she said look, we made a mistake. this was terrible, so i set up a group to find out why, and what we can do again, and don't forget four people at the lev